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I have a cz 22lr which i have been using for along long time , now my eye sight is getting weaker and weaker so i am planning to scope it up.
I was so good with it with open sights that i could take out ducks , pigeons ,jackals , doves and snipes out to 100 yards.
I already have a ZOS and Bushnell 3-5x40 scope so no need for new scope.
None of my shooting stretches out to 100+ yards so i want to know at what distance to zero my scope , i mostly use winchister super x HP's and my average shooting distance is 25 yards , i know i should zero my scope at the distance where i shoot most of my game but i still want my self to be confident of taking out game at 100 yards so tell me what distance should i sight in and what will be the bullet drop at various distances.
Hope you guys understood what i am trying to ask , hopefully will get useful answers form all you expert members.


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bilal bhai, I suggest you may zero your rifle at 75 yards. The bullet drop should stay the same as it was earlier, ie, with open sights. You are an experienced shooter so I suggest that after zeroing, you can check the deviation in POA by shooting at 50 and 100 yards. That will give you a fair idea about aiming from a scope from different distances.

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do scopes with mil-dots help or no need to spend extra money.
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Scopes with mildot only help you to shoot at longer ranges without touching the turrets. Say for example you zero at 100 yards; the dots below the Center will give you shooting cross hair with different ranges but this is effective to maximum of 300 yards as .22 drops about 54 inches average at that range and it gets MIGHTY difficult to shoot at that range. IMHO for a .22 the scope you have is more than enough.

As rightly pointed out by KBW. Zero it at 75 yards, then shoto a group at 50 yards and see where it is shooting it should be around .75 to .5 inches. then shoot at 100, 125, 150, 175 and 200 yards. This way you will know how much drop it is getting and you can write down that data on a piece of paper with the target drawn on it. Show where the cross hair was and where it shot for all the ranges.

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I can't disagree with the seniors,, but I may put it other way round,, zero it at 22 yards and then see the results at 75-100-125 yards.
Thats what I do with my CeZe. Win HPs are a treat to shoot while hunting,, esp Xpert. It smashes the skull of a Jackal at 100+ yards,, what else you can ask from poor 22Lr. ;)

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@Mustanir, you r absolutely correct. This would be a good way of doing it at the very start. Learning on the go. Nice idea Mustanir bhai. Wonder why it didn't come to my mind

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@Attiq bhai :handgestures-salute:
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@Mustanir bhai, there is something called as the danger zone of a bullet. Calculated from the average size of an intended target and the see where the lowest point of trajectory while going up touches the target base; and then see where the max ordinate goes. and then the bullet when going down touches the base of the target. This way the lest possible shooting range to the max possible range will be available.
In 22 inches case the bullet will hit about 3 inches high at 100 yards as the scope elevation will be at the most compressed state. THIS how ever needs to be done practically and photos of Mustanir bhai doing the same with .22 ceze are awaited.

Probably will also clear my mind from a LOT of oblong questions.


http://www.jbmballistics.com/ballistics ... _exp.shtml

Danger Space
The minimum and maximum range near the output range for which the bullet will hit a target of the entered height. This is used as an gauge of the required range estimation accuracy.

:P didnt want to post this.. but your thanks made me.. hehehe

BTW: Nevertheless what is posted above is just an excuse to rant up Mustanir Bhai to jiggle up the thanks.. However his idea of starting from 22 yards will tell a LOT about HOW the rifle is acting and WHAT it is doing with the specific ammo while in cold fouled bore condition. I am going to try it out soon to learn shooting as am a novice at it.

Thank you mustanir bhai .. for setting me straight. :text-thankyouyellow: :text-bravo: :violence-sniperdark:

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@Attiq bhai,, I just wanted to set straight Brother Bilal,, just to let him know things, the way these are. Learning Physics again. :twisted:

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@Mustanir bhai, small tid bits make the learner want to learn more; and who is just asking question run away from the whole thing altogether. that is why the bickering between you and me :violence-snipersmiley: :violence-sniperdark: splurts out some info creating a SCENE :text-threadjacked: and questions posed as if we were :character-oldtimer: oldtimers and giving us :text-bravo: and :text-goodpost: .

At the same time: I on the other hand learn a LOT doing this dishum dishum...

BTW: Thank you for being an :character-oldtimer: and :violence-rapidfire: with me.

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All that is said here: Where is the OP of the thread?? Bilal sb if you are reading kindly start posing questions so that this can be pushed to bring in new info.

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I have zeroed my rifle to 75 yards as suggested by KBW . ZOS scope was initially giving some problems by loosing its zero so swapped it with bushnell but the picture is not very clear past 75 yards . However Bullet drop at 100y was only 3 inches but about spot on 50 yards ,looking forward to 25 yards test soon.


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Lovely. Pls feel free to add Pics as well.

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Sure but will have to wait for some time because i forgot the lock pattern of my mobile , But will try to post pics soon.


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Shoot the phone it will open the lock

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Nice idea but soil in my house does not grow the money tree very well. lol.


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Loan out some one else phone for taking pics and posting them.

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Bushnells for our market are most of the times substandard,, you are lucky to have only vision problem,, with these scopes POI retention is PIA.
but if u get the same from abroad, these work f9,, Bilal is lucky but Bilal bhai try changing soil of ur house with Attiq Bhai's ;)

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Nice idea sir mustanir .

For the pics i will try using another phone but the camera is only 1.7mp so the pics will be of extremely low quality.


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Bhai I am no where near soil. Hanging in air. An appartment dweller. Btw I some times for the fun of it shoot inside room and shoot birds at very long distances farther than we have discussed. Using a debenture hawke scope got it a bit expensive. Scope lapping kit is finished.

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Scope lapping kit is finished.


Sir you seem to be pretty good at rubbing things,, ;)

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Scope lapping kit has a 30 mm high tensil stainless steel rod. With 6000 to just 100 grit lapping compounds. Depends on usage.... Lapping scope rings or torturing some other ring to accommodate a new SCOPE of life.

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