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sir according to manufacturer ,the muzzle velocity for diana 35 in .177 and .22 cal is 225 m/sec or 740 feet/sec and 175 m/sec or 575 feet/sec respectively!
but i am my self confused that how this big difference is possible in 35 and 34 model as internals as well as externals r approx same in both models! the only difference i see in 35 and 34 premium model is in name, new t06 trigger and thats it.
have u checked the owner`s manual for velocity? if u have it,then please share it for help!

hunter468
The muzzle velocities given by manufacturer are with a particular ammo; normally a lighter pallet. Muzzle velocities change with the change in ammo.

Here are muzzle velocities of few brands of pallets that I recorded on my Beta Chrony couple of months back, shooting my RWS 35.

Gamo Match, 15.43 grain

- 697.3 ft/sec
- 703.6 f/s
- 694.4 f/s
- 701.5 f/s
- 696.0 f/s
- 698.7 f/s
- 694.8 f/s
- 696.2 f/s
- 690.8 f/s
- 697.5 f/s

Gamo Pro Magnum, 15.9 grain

- 692.9 ft/sec
- 670.4 f/s
- 669.3 f/s
- 683.0 f/s
- 690.1 f/s

Gamo Hunter, 15.3 grain

- 628.6 ft/sec
- 615.3 f/s
- 631.1 f/s
- 617.3 f/s
- 631.4 f/s

H&N Rabbit Magnum II.... 24.69 grain

- 477.9 ft/sec
- 491.8 f/s
- 472.4 f/s
- 487.3 f/s
- 483.1 f/s

As you can see, velocities from the same gun differ with change in pallets. Weight and shape of pallets are two most important factors that cause this change. Now if I use lighter and more aerodynamic pallets like PBA Raptor, the MV will go around 800 ft / sec. So, if I say that MV of my RWS 35 is 800 ft/sec, it wont be incorrect. This is what manufacturers do.......

Most of the manufacturers quote velocities with lighter pallets like PBA Raptor, just to make their air gun look more powerful and effective. Whenever a MV is quoted, one must check that it has been achieved with which pallets......

Hope it helps

thank u for your very informative and helpful reply

now u have made it easy for me to decide for diana 35
although my priorty was 34 premium model but unfortunately it is not available in UAE,hopefully my friend will buy 35 model tomorrow,asking price was 1185drms (negotiable), 34 classic is available around 1075 drms but i just dont like the stock of it (without checkering and raised cheek piece) i mean the non-german quality looks

regarding velocity issue:-
now i am sure the reply from the manufacturer was surely about the old (short/compact) model 35 which was discontinued in 80s (NOT THE ONE IDENTICAL TO NEW 34 MODEL AND CURRENTLY BEING SOLD IN UAE)

You are welcome hunter468


Again, it cant be said for sure unless we know which pallets the gun was shooting when the velocity was recorded. But generally, RWS 35 and 34 will stay in the range of 650-750 ft /sec, depending on the pallets and the condition of the gun (its pump).

Good luck buying an RWS

KBW Thank You very much for an informative and eye opening post.

@ KBW
and this is the mail i received an hour ago from diana air guns
Dear Sir,

I am sorry I send you the data of the old model 35 discontinued in 80s.
The model 35 available nowadays has the same velocity like model 34 (compare catalogue).all specs eg weight,length,velocity,power/energy etc of 35 model (available in Asia and Arab markets) are identical to the new 34 model .

For purchase please contact our importer in Dubai:

Al Sayad Trading
Deira



Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards

DIANA
Mayer & Grammelspacher GmbH & Co.KG
- Abteilung Verkauf / sales department -
Markus Glück

I love to shoot this airgun

The manufacturing quality and finishing of this rifle is of such a high standard that when I first held it (yes this same rifle - KBW's) in my hand, I mistook it for some top of the line .22lr rifle. A few minutes later, on closer inspection, I realized, I was holding a Diana Air Rifle.

beautiful gun and nice review+shooting
i bought one in early 90s,it has broken sights and rust as well bcz it was not maintained properly while i was in foreign.
now after going through this review i m looking to buy one!
if its available in local market with same double checkering on (pistol grip as well as forearm) and new t06 trigger?

This is the deluxe model. I haven't seen it in the market anywhere but standard Diana 35 models are available. Saw a few with PARA Company in Lahore and Shamsuddin in Rwp. All are with T05 triggers. Price was 32-35 K.

how old u checked with shamsuddin,any contact details of dealer?
and,i m myself visiting dubai next month,i think i should search it with alsayad....but "deluxe" thing is new to me,and its also not mentioned on the gun any where in the pics,is this world "DELUXE" mentioned on the gun anywhere?

No, the word "Deluxe" is not mentioned on the gun neither Diana 35 is shown on the RWS website. However, I read it on one of the websites that its a deluxe model of RWS 35. Since it is not written on the gun so I did not mention in my review as well. When comparing it with standard Diana 35, it has a Monte Carlo stock and as you can see in the pics, the overall finish and checkering is much better than the standard model.

yeah thats what attracted me towards this beauty!
i shall do a search in dubai for this otherwise buy a 35 regular!

@kbw
sir which scope and mount u r using on this diana? does it holds the zero for 200 odd shots?
long time ago,my experience with a model 48 proved that these guns can eat any scope with a handful of pellets! what do u say?

@leo
brother, I am using a Hubertus 3-9-32 scope with Chinese mounts. The arrangement is working fine so far with no change in zeroing of the scope and I must have shot over 2000 pallets with this arrangement. Airguns have a very nasty two way recoil which kills the scope, as you said. As far as I remeber (I will have to check it), there is a stopper on the rails in my guns which stops the movement of the bases. You will have to make some arrangement which stops the movement of the bases. It can be done by any competent gunsmith once and than you need not replace the bases even if you change the scope.

regards

@ KBW sir can you please tell about the two way recoil. Have Googled it but could not understand it. Many thanks

Just joined the site ,My salam to all Respected members,Very nice review love the pics looks like pics are taken by some pro.I also own a 35 since 2007 must have shot 8000 pellets through it and this Year did a lube tune to it now the gun is really smooth,Its velocity currently with Umarex light weight pellets 741 fps,diana magnum 655 fps,gamo magnum 645 fps,Gamo pro hunter 695 fps.The gun is very accurate with Diana magnum and gamo pro hunter pellets.

Warm welcome raja yasir. I know you are an avid hunter and would love to read about your adventures using Diana 35.

@raja yasir
A warm welcome to TGF, brother.

Would love to know about your experience with these guns. Please do share your air gun hunting pics in the Hunting Section.

regards

@raja yasir
Sir very nice guns and good shooting. Rabbit is not easy to shoot with airgun.

Your Diana 35 stock looks different from the stock of 35 in this review. Is this different model?

Thanks,yes my 35 has same parts and trigger only the stock in the review is deluxe model stock .

W'salam Raja Yasir and a warm welcome to TGF.

Nice to see your interest in hunting, especially with air rifles.

Thank you for the warm welcome,very nice forum and very nice atmosphere.

No doubt Diana 35 is really awesome airgun i own this beauty and finish is awesome,simple and but really hard to cock and loud bang.

@Virk share the pics of your beauty please. Thanks