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 Post subject: Range Report: WINCHESTER SUPER X Hyper velocity HP .22 LR

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Winchester Super X Hyper velocity hollow point 40 grains is a new entry in .22 LR market of Karachi. Its reasonably priced at 18 to 20 Rs each. I thought I should share my experience with it with members.
It comes in 100 rounds plastic packs in a 2000 rounds carton. Packing is quite decent and will keep ammo safe for long duration. Its claimed velocity is 1435 FPS and its supposed to perform well in even .22 auto pistols which are notoriously ammo sensitive.
I tested it in HK-270 semi auto rifle.In 200 rounds fired there were seven failure to fire. All fired in second attempt. One round tip was deformed and bolt was not closing. Another member Ghazi Sb has fired more than 200 rounds of the same ammo without any misfire.
Can't comment on the accuracy as I am not a good shot to begin with. Seems good.

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Rifle:.............................. Heckler & Koch HK-270 (a reasonably accurate semi auto rifle)
Distance:...............................50 M
Technique:.............................Deliberate fire Prone with makeshift rest.
Aiming point...........................6 o'clock of the bull
10 amd 9 score circles are total one inch in size.
NOTE: Not scored as gun could not be zeroed with best of my efforts. Will try again with better rest arrangement

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A very nice review. Seems to be quite an accurate ammo at a reasonable price. We could have had better idea of the accuracy had the groups been marked. Thanks for the effort, Shariq :)

BTW, what are the dimensions of the target? .22 bullet holes look like .460 Rigby :mrgreen:

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Its standard rifle target used in competitions. 10 and 9 score circles are 1 inch dia.


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Thanks for sharing Shariq.

Please keep updating the above post with your future range visits and also try to post your 100M targets here.

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Shariq... good effort. Like SA mentioned please add to this with more targets in future. :)


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Any updates on the ammo testing Shariq bhai?

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Will visit range this weekend after a gap of 3 weeks. Will update ASAP


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Here are pics of few more targets shot with Winchester
Parameters
Rifle:.............................. Heckler & Koch HK-270 (a reasonably accurate semi auto rifle)
Distance:...............................50 M
Technique:.............................Deliberate fire Prone with makeshift rest.
Aiming point...........................6 o'clock of the bull while trying to zero it.
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Rifle:.............................. Heckler & Koch HK-270 (a reasonably accurate semi auto rifle)
Distance:...............................50 M
Technique:.............................Deliberate fire Prone with makeshift rest.
Aiming point...........................6 o'clock of the bull while trying to zero it.
I thought the gun is zeroed after last 5 shots in Bulls eye which are unmarked.
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Now I decided to fire a 5 shot group for this review but inexplicably rifle lost its zero :angry-banghead:
What can be the reason for it. :text-feedback:
Range and wind conditions were same. First group is marked by circle. It can be observed that group has shifted towards right. Rest shots are for re zeroing.
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Shariq bhai, which scope do you have on HK270? I feel a good ammo should perform better than this from 50 M with a scope and make smaller groups. Is the scope properly fitted and the rings properly tightened on the mount?

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Its Bushnell ( Chinese ) 3X9 32. Scope is reasonably fitted with no movement.
After this episode, I zeroed the gun for Federal Game Shok HP ammo. Scope held its zero for 50 rds fired till now.
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My last 5 shot group for Winchester was sub 1 inch. Its in bulls eye without marking. I thought sub 1 inch group with a makeshift rest is decent accuracy :mrgreen: ( Will try to do better )
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That is some outstanding shooting for 50M with a .22! Have you tried CCI standard velocity or Stingers? They work all my semi-.22s very reliably. However, they are a bit more $$. Not much more than the Super-X. Can you purchase Federal 40gr RN or hollow point bulk packs (525 round boxes)? They are great in semi-auto rifles and pistols also!

Darn good shooting!

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Question,
Is the HK glass bedded or is the barrel free floated ?
Check your barrel for clearance after it warms up and see if you are getting any tight spots.

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kimmaurer wrote:
That is some outstanding shooting for 50M with a .22! Have you tried CCI standard velocity or Stingers? They work all my semi-.22s very reliably. However, they are a bit more $$. Not much more than the Super-X. Can you purchase Federal 40gr RN or hollow point bulk packs (525 round boxes)? They are great in semi-auto rifles and pistols also!

Darn good shooting!

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While this particular rifle was with me, I did shoot both CCI standard as well as Hi-Vel rounds and it shot them without any hiccups. Only problem I had was with 1970s batch of Win Super X and that too in FTEs. The only Federal that I used in it was the Game Shok boxes - the only ones I could lay my hands on here.

I did a brief review of this rifle. Link --> viewtopic.php?f=41&t=608 You might want to check it out.

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@kimmaurer Bro
I am flattered :) But check this guy's accuracy from open iron sights. He is our member KBW
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=369
Ammo reviewed in above thread is pretty much what is available to us in PK. Haven't seen any bulk pack .22 here.


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Very good shooting Shariq sb.

@ kimmaurer,

Welcome to TGF. We already have a few members from Texas here and good to have another addition. I look forward to reading your posts and learn from your experiences. :)


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Thanks folks! This site is refreshing, professional and serious about the topics! I feel very welcome. I found out I used to live down the road from a member from Greece! Us Texans do travel too...;) However, Texas is Texas (Except for Dallas and Houston) and I'm staying here now....:)

PS I was almost stationed in your lovely country....but was sent to Germany instead.

It's always great to meet real "gun people".

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(Kim like a girl with a mustache)

PPS Back to gun stuff. This is a great Texas company with a variety of ammunition. I like them a lot.
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php/cName/22-long-rifle-ammo-solid-point


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Welcome to TGF kimmaurer. Hope to learn from you :)

You guys are really lucky; such a huge variety of ammo and that too at such cheap rates. :)

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kimmaurer wrote:
Thanks folks! This site is refreshing, professional and serious about the topics! I feel very welcome. I found out I used to live down the road from a member from Greece! Us Texans do travel too...;) However, Texas is Texas (Except for Dallas and Houston) and I'm staying here now....:)


Glad you like the environment. We try hard to maintain an environment which is friendly, respectful and at the same time conducive to knowledge-sharing. We look forward to reading your posts and hope you'll also contribute towards further strengthening the teach-and-learn environment here.

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7 MISFIRES out of 200rds.
I am worried I bought 2000 rds. Either the Hammer mainspring of your rifle is weak or the firing pin flattened due to firing without ammo, or a dented breach face due to dry firing or the ammo is junk.
I would never touch an ammo with a 3.5% misfire rate with a barge pole.
I will try to test it and see for myself if this ammo is any good.


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Sir will wait for your take on this ammo. Can't comment on the rifle much. I have experienced misfires in Federal Game Shoks too with the same rifle.


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@ Shariq
I would suspect you have a MINOR ISSUE with your rifle.
I have used the Winchester with no FTF Or FTE in both Matlin and Ruger rifles.
They cycle eccellent in my Ruger Mk 1 and any FTF were die to me not properly cleaning my pistol.
I havent fired them much in my Taurus revolver or my Jennings, but I see no reason why they would not perform as well.
Accuracy was good, but I mostly used them for Rabbit and Squirrel hunting rather than target shooting.

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I would second LAGS' opinion here. The HK270 needs close inspection along the lines suggested by Ghazi sb above before attributing the FTE's to ammo failure.

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