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Hey Guys,

Lets start it finally, the TGF Airgunners Club. Some time back I thought that I had almost lost my passion for Airguns and the temptation was increased towards firearms. Inaccessibility of ranges or the hassle involved in going there, the increasing prices of Ammo, ban of licenses, issues with 144 and the never ending revalidation process of licenses have made me realize the true value of Airgunning and the convenience involved. Anytime, any-day all I have to do is walk up the stairs to go to my rooftop and I can start plinking.

The objective of this club is going to be very simple. To promote Airgunning and to help people acquire and maintain airguns. We will plan combined plinking sessions and try out various fun activities for all TGF members. Further with support of management perhaps we can also organize competitions.

To Start-off with, all members are requested to share details of Airguns they own or they have owned and a brief account of their experience with the respective airguns.

I`ll break the ice:

I developed craving for an Airgun over 1.5 years ago. My first buy was a Chinese Magnum (.22). A big heavy and powerful Airgun. I used it for a couple of months but then in some time I damaged the breach seal. I did not realize what had gone wrong with the airgun and without inquiring much I sold it and got a Kral (one of their basic models).

Kral (.22) had a very good trigger, finish from outside was nice, inside wooden finish of stock was poor. This gun was shooting at about 560-570fps. The accuracy was also good. I never scoped it properly, got a Tasco scope for it but the scope required some serious shimming so that setup never really worked. In sometime I sold the Kral as well since I had finally put my Hands on a Gamo Shadow 1000

Gamo Shadow (.22) is an excellent Airgun weighing only 2.8kgs and shooting at 670-690 fps. I scoped it with an Optima 3-9x44 Scope and the entire setup worked really well. The only thing I hated about the Shadow was the trigger. It's super hard, unpredictable with lots of creep in it. I expected it to get better with time but it didn't. Also the gun would Twang alot since it's so light.

In the same days I got my hands on a 25 year old Dianna MOD45. It was dysfunctional at the time I got it. Upon cocking the Sear would not hold the spring back. The iron sights were missing and on one side where you screw the gun close to breach, the stock was badly cracked and later broke. I still have this with me and I have not been able to do much with it.

Later a very dear friend was very interested in buying my Gamo Shadow setup and he insisted that I sell it to him and so I did.

My latest purchase is a Hatsan Mod99 and I have been posting it's review on the link below:

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=3743

Now lets hear it from you guys.

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Excellent initiative Deathrow and requesting members to share their inputs.

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Dont have any air gun. But im interested in buying one. Can anybody guide me about some famous brands models with prices. I only know diana coz used it long time ago when i was a kid. I have heard these airguns aint coming cheap these days.

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I also don't have an airgun but I am interested in getting one. What about Chinese airguns? Pls share quality and price of Chinese airguns. If anyone have idea about air pistols, pls share details. Thanks


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Siqbal41- I have one a chinese Airgun. Total waste of money, best starter is Gammo or the one Deathrow has purchased. Please check his thread for details and hope it will tempt you.

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Guys... Do not waste your money getting Chinese Airguns. If you guys are interested, we can speak to guns for Defense and get a deal for Gamo Shadow 1000? For 16-16.5k it's an excellent airgun. Or you may order a Hatsan in the same range from Hira Arms Lahore. Hira Arms have a huge collection of Hatsan Airguns starting from 16k. They charge 1k for delivery.

An fixed barrel Kral (under lever) is also available at Guns for Defense. That can be considered as well.

Diannas are a slightly expensive affair. The cheapest and most affordable is the Dianna Panther Mod31 and claims 650 fps on a .22 but even that goes for around 27-29k in Lahore and even more expensive in Karachi.

Let me know if you guys are really in the mood the buy airguns, share some budget details and perhaps we can look into some options.

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Optimus, Siqbal
I got two Chinese airguns and is not worth buying it , have fired
them appx 2000 plus got them repaired thrice , their seals are
damaged every now then . They are only good to shoot at
the maximum distance of 15 meters for birds..

Siqbal
Plinking air pistols are rarely available here and their asking
is too high for instance Diana air pistol was available n Karachi
@45k just a week back which internationally retails for under $200
Baikal's was also available (few) at Lahore market .

Optimus
Please consider the following's
Gamo shadow 1000
Gamo whisper
Hatson mod99
Hatson 125 sniper (this is currently the best best option on there
complete package costs around 35k including bipod , sling, scope )

Deathrow
That will be great I'll call you tomo to discuss it .

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The Hatsan Sniper is very nice but not recommended for everyone specially if you are not used to airguns. It's big, it's heavy and it's very powerful. If you can figure out how to handle that monster then nothing like it.

The only reason I didn't get it for myself is because I thought that the fun might be too heavy for my random rooftop plinking. It's 4.1kgs and shoots .22 easily at 900 above fps, lastly it's built like a tank. Very very solid

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Thanks Usama and DT. Let me increase my budget, then will discuss In shaa Allah.


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Good to see Airgunners are getting serious on TGF :text-bravo:

Am in with my GAMO Shadow 1000 which I bought couple of months ago.

Since its a very famous gun and its reviews are already available on TGF by seniors, i guess I should refrain to put my inexperienced comments about the GAMO. :mrgreen:

Hope TGF could arrange a competition among airgunners as well.

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Insha Allah they will... but we will start off with combined plinking sessions where we all get together and plink. You can still post two to three lines regarding your personal experience with the Shadow?

have you scoped it yet? How many pellets fired? which Ammo you been using with it?

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The Hatson sniper looks very impressive. Any idea of its availability in our market.

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Fk... You can get it imported from Hira Arms Lahore, He will deliver it for you and charge a grand for it. Plus they are the importers of Hatsan so no one else will be able to give you a better rate... If you interested, pm and I`ll share the contact details with you.

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Hatson sniper was introduced here with 28k tag currently
only with Lahore market and the complete package costs
around 35k (street price) , its a full size airgun with some
recoil for most airgun enthusiast which I believe will
not matter with you ..
It is very effective to 50-70 meters for small games and their
are videos where people claim to shot kites around 100m

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I witnessed from my own eyes someone take down two crows with one pellet at 70 meters. It's a Canon and shoots at higher FPS as compared to even the Airking

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I have got Diana 54 airking and a Hatsan bt65 pcp both are excellent air guns


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murtaza khilji wrote:
I have got Diana 54 airking and a Hatsan bt65 pcp both are excellent air guns


Good to see you back at TGF :greetings-waveyellow:
Your inputs here as a expert air gunner are being
missed here..

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Oh yes... Our dear Khilji does not only have great knowledge but also has a great brain :-)

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I spoke to Hira Arms (Neela Gumbad, Lahore) some time back and they provided me with the below mentioned quotes for various airguns. Anyone interested can contact them for further details and negotiations.

Hatsan:

Striker Series 1000X Rs.15,000
Striker Series 1000S Rs.16,000

125th Camo Rs.23,000
125th OD Rs.22,000

Mod 85X Camo Rs.25,000
Mod 85X Std Rs.21,000

Mod88 NW Rs.18,000

Mod125 Sniper 32,000

Diana

Mod 34: Rs.35,000
Panther 31: Rs.29,000
350 mag: Rs.45,000

Gamo

Whisper Max Rs.21,000
Whisper X Rs.20,000

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Went to Elahi Bux yesterday and got quotes for some Airguns and scopes available there.

Airguns (prices are negotiable)

Gamo
Gamo Shadow CSI Rs.25,000
Gamo Black Shadow Barracade (OD Green) Rs. 20,000
Gamo Delta Max (in .22 and .177) Rs. 15,000
Gamo Cadet Delta Rs.15,000

BSA
BSA Meteor Rs.25,000
BSA Comet Rs. 22,000

CZ
CZ 634 Rs.22,000

Scopes (Prices fixed and final)

Gamo:
MilDot 6x24-50 Ajustable Objective Rs. 15,000
MilDot 4x12-44 Ajustable Objective Rs. 10,000
MilDot 3x9-40 Ajustable Objective Rs. 9,000

Gamo Compact Series:
4x32AO WR Rs.7000
6-40WR Rs.6000
3-9x32WR Rs.6000
3-9x40WR 6000

Very basic Gamo scopes were available between Rs.3000-2000

Bushnell (Trophie Series):
3-9x40 MATTE AO Rs. 20,000

Busnell (Banner Series):
3-5-10x36 Multi X Rs.16,000
3-9x40 Illum CF500 Rs.16,000

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Nice initiative Deathrow :) Keep it up

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Thanyou SA... have been missing input from your behalf :-)

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Assalamo alaikum all

Last year around August, I bought a used Diana 54 from this forum from a senior member. The superb trigger, completely recoil-less mechanism and beautiful looks hooked me completely into airgunning.

Then late last year I splurged and bought a Weihrauch HW100 PCP. The HW is a class of its own, a joy to hold and shoot and extremely accurate out to 50 yards with good pellets. A senior hunter tried it out and got a one holer group from 5 pellets using JSB exact Jumbo at 48 yards. I generally use Gamo pellets as JSBs are very rare and expensive, and upto 25 yards they group decently but are nowhere near the accuracy shown by JSB and H&N.

I will try to attach a few pics of the guns and targets next time as currently the postimage site seems to be hanging up.


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Thanks farazh, you can also try photobucket or the built in add pic utility on TGF. Waiting to see the pics.

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faraz, thankyou for your input, Yes we would for sure like to see some pictures. There's just so much demand for JSB but interestingly there are not available in the market (atleast I have not seen) and even if somebody does, I am sure they are going to sell them pretty expensive. H&Ns are going for 2k per tin. Might as well shoot actual bullets if I`m gona spend that much.

Anyhow did you scope your Airguns? which scopes did you use? how was the experience?

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