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I think original post may be edited to add this rule that weight of total ammunition carried may not exceed 5 kgs. I know its a stupid rule but it has to be complied with as per CAA procedures.
I think about 300 rds of 9mm will weigh that much.


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I was at the airport few days back and just out of curiosity asked the security personal at entry what they would have done if they found out I was carrying a licensed weapon and they said nobody can take a weapon inside airport premises for any reason as per the latest directive only a uniformed 'generals' are allowed to take along weapons with them, they also declined to keep the weapon in their custody at entry and instead advised to keep weapon at home if traveling to airport.

Luckily I was not carrying the weapon otherwise it would have been a frustrating drive back home to keep the weapon away.

Please share your latest experience of attempting to enter airport premises with a licensed weapon. I doubt if we can travel by air with weapons any more.


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Bro. It is confirm that till Election no one can travel by air with weapon :) :)


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I was at the airport few days back and just out of curiosity asked the security personal at entry what they would have done if they found out I was carrying a licensed weapon and they said nobody can take a weapon inside airport premises for any reason as per the latest directive only a uniformed 'generals' are allowed to take along weapons with them, they also declined to keep the weapon in their custody at entry and instead advised to keep weapon at home if traveling to airport.

Luckily I was not carrying the weapon otherwise it would have been a frustrating drive back home to keep the weapon away.

Please share your latest experience of attempting to enter airport premises with a licensed weapon. I doubt if we can travel by air with weapons any more.



dont know about current situation.
dam sure for one thing 25 th march 2013 tak koi aisa rule lagoo nahe hota tha

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yes i have too travel too islamabad on sat,but have to go back home to drop weapon as they dint allowed it...soo plz avoid traveling carrying gun till elections are done.

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ASF did not allow you ?


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What is the logic behind that till elections weapons are not allowed on a plane??? Seems the same within city fever of banning permits and licences. Ridiculous logics of govt!!


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@ hmr, yes they dint allowed the weapon.infact they start asking under what permission im carrying weapon as govt has banned carrying any type of weapon and all permits stands invalid :angry-banghead:

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Nicely defined.

There shouldnt be a problem unless ASF guy wants a problem.
As for going inside with a weapon, of someone suspects you are carrying on yourself, you will be spending a few hours with them


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has anyone travel after election how was the experience piz tell me


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their is a new airline air indus does it allow to carry wapon.has any one traveled from it.
i have read their terms and Conditions 9.3.2 No firearms are accepted onboard Air Indus (Pvt) Ltd flights
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There should not be any problem. No airline allows firearms in the cabin. Luggage compt is different.


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Hi friends.
Can someone for sure please confirm if transportation of fire arms is allowed by air these days. I hope 144 letter is not required as it has been a long time since i travelled with a fire arm and I never showed 144 letter to ASF even when sec 144 was imposed on carrying of firearms.


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I went to Karachi few days back and came back with my Makarov and 100 rounds in my luggage. The procedure is same. They will ask for your license, though.

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HMR wrote:
I think original post may be edited to add this rule that weight of total ammunition carried may not exceed 5 kgs. I know its a stupid rule but it has to be complied with as per CAA procedures.
I think about 300 rds of 9mm will weigh that much.


On two occasions in 2012 I have brought back close to a 1000 rounds / trip from LHR to KHI. Both times, the quantity and weight exceeded 500 rounds and 5kg respectively. Is this a new rule? Please confirm, so I may edit my first post.

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Found this from PIA's publication saved in my documents:
8.4 Firearms and dangerous items
8.4.1 If you wish to carry Firearms and ammunition as Checked Baggage it is your responsibility to inform yourself of, and ensure that you have obtained, all required clearances from the government authorities of the country of departure and the country of destination before commencing your carriage. In addition, you must agree/comply to the following requirements for acceptance of Firearms and ammunition,
8.4.1 (a) On your declaration of fire arm /ammunition, you will be asked to unload the Fire- Arms in the presence of security.
8.4.1 (b) Once the Fire-Arms have been unloaded, you will be asked to secure them in your checked baggage, in presence of security staff. The baggage will be then properly locked by you in the presence of security staff and will be handed over to us for their safe custody in aircraft with security escort.
8.4.2 Firearms and ammunition If accepted for carriage, firearms must be accompanied by all documents legally required by the countries of departure, destination and any Stopovers. Carriage of ammunition is subject to ICAO and IATA regulations as specified in Article 8.3.2(a). Your firearms and ammunitions will never be carried in the cabin or cockpit of the aircraft.
8.4.3 Weapons such as, for example, antique firearms, swords, knives, toy or replica guns, bows and arrows and similar items may be accepted as Checked Baggage only at our discretion, subject to prior approval by us, but will not be permitted in the cabin or cockpit of the aircraft.
8.4.4 We will have no liability or responsibility where any item accepted under Articles 8.4.2 and/or 8.4.3 is removed from your Checked Baggage and/or retained or destroyed by security personnel, government officials, airport officials, police or military officials or other airlines involved in your carriage.
8.5 Right to refuse carriage
8.5.1 We will refuse to carry Baggage which contains any of the items described in Article 8.3.2 (and Article 8.3.4 in the case of Unchecked Baggage only), regardless of whether and when we are told, or discover, the presence of any such items. See also Article 8.3.1.
8.5.2 We will refuse to accept Baggage for carriage if we decide that it is unsuitable for carriage,
Issue Date: 1st June 2010 Page 24 of 40
PIA’s CONDITIONS OF CARRIAGE
[Edition 1: Revision 00]
whether because of its size, shape, appearance, weight, content, character, or for safety or operational reasons, or for the comfort of other Passengers. If you have any doubt about particular items, please ask for guidance from us or our Authorized Agents.
8.5.3 We may refuse to accept Baggage for carriage if we decide that it is not properly and securely packed in suitable containers. If you ask us, we will give you information about packing and containers acceptable to us.
8.6 Right of search, screen and x-ray
8.6.1 For reasons of safety, health and security, and to check that you are not carrying in your Baggage any items prohibited by these Conditions of Carriage, we may search, screen and x-ray your Baggage. We will try to search your Baggage while you are present, but if you are not readily available we may search it in your absence. If you do not let us conduct all such searches, scans and x-rays, we will refuse to carry you and your Baggage.
8.6.2 You must allow security checks of your Baggage by government officials, airport officials, police or military officials and other airlines involved in your carriage.
8.6.3 If a search, screen or x-ray causes Damage to your Baggage, we will not be liable for the Damage unless it was caused solely by our negligence.
8.6.4 Please note that the security authorities of some countries require that Checked Baggage is secured in such a manner that it can be opened without the possibility of causing damage in the absence of the Passenger. It is your responsibility to make yourself aware of and comply with any such requirements.

Have gone through the whole document but their is no ceiling indicated but have heard limit of 500 rounds or 5 Kg....whichever is higher will apply for domestic travel only and shall be covered by the licence as well (already stated above).

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Checked CAA website and found following details:

A license for firearms to be carried on aircraft must be obtained from the appropriate authorities. In case of aircraft entering Pakistan the authority to be addressed for arms license is the District Magistrate, Karachi. In all cases, the bore of the arm and amount of ammunition which it is intended to carry should be specified, it being particularly noted that the importation into Pakistan of arms and ammunition of 303 and 450 bores or 6.5 MM or 8 MM or 9 MM caliber or muskets of 410 bore, or rifles of any other bore containing important components of the aforesaid rifles, or pistols or revolvers of .441, . 455 or any intermediate or 38 bore or 9 MM caliber, or parts or fittings for, rifles, muskets, pistols or revolvers of such bores, or of ammunition which can be fired from such firearms, or of appliances the object of which is the silencing of firearms, is prohibited under Arm Rules, 1924, as applicable to Pakistan.

Sporting arms and ammunition, explosives (other than those which are used for handling and operating an aircraft), poisons, corrosives liquids or irritant gases an aesthetic gases, liquids and compounds, flammable solids, liquids or gases, oxidizing materials shall not be carried in bulk on any passenger carrying aircraft, whether national or foreign in or across the territories of Pakistan except in such quantities as may be notified from time to time.
When any of the articles mentioned is carried the carrier shall ensure that:

The quality is within the prescribed limits.

It is properly and securely packed and correctly labeled showing the contents of the package with appropriate instruction for handling.

It is stored in such a place that if the container is damaged the crew, passenger and the main structure of the aircraft is not likely to be endangered by its effects.

It may be transited in bulk through Pakistan on a foreign registered aircraft provided the owner of the aircraft has obtained prior permission of its Government or conveyance of the cargo on board and 24 hours advance notice of the arrival of aircraft is given to the Airport of intended landing in Pakistan.

National operator in Pakistan shall not undertake to remove any of the articles mentioned above in bulk unless prior permission of the Federal Government has been obtained.

A list of articles which are classified as “Prohibited Cargo” is available at all civil aerodromes.


Source:http://www.caapakistan.com.pk/Cargo.aspx#carriage of arms


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SA wrote:
. Is this a new rule? Please confirm, so I may edit my first post.

Yes its a new rule and most airlines enforce it strictly.


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@ NR

Thanks for digging this out.

@ HMR

From where can we get the updated rules?

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