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Had the experience of taking along my handgun with me to LHR and back to KHI this January and based on my experience:

1) Declare to the guard standing next to the scanning machine that you have a licensed weapon in your bag before the bag goes through the machine;

2) Preferably, the gun should be inside a gun case (mostly hard case) and the bag in which the gun case is present, should have a proper lock;

3) All ammunition should be stored separately from the gun and the ammo quantity should be as per the limit mentioned on your license. Mags should be out of the handgun and placed separately.

4) Help the CAA / ASF guy note down the info on his register. This'll help save time.

5) Before he starts noting down the details, request him to call the airline guy beforehand who will be sealing the bag (suitcase, etc). This'll also save time.

6) Once the ASF guy notes down the details in his register, note down the register entry number and the ASF guy's name for your own reference.

7) Get the airline guy seal your bag and accompany you to the check-in counter.

8) All in all it takes 15 minutes of extra time going through the above.

9) Upon arrival, there's an ASF guy already waiting next to the cargo belt and checks the tag numbers to identify the bag which has the weapon. He then accompanies you till you leave the airport's main building.

10) Upon my arrival in Karachi, I opened the suitcase in front of the ASF guy next to the cargo bay to check whether the gun was still in it, since I felt that the seal which the Airline guy had placed over my lock had been tampered with. The gun was there and nothing was found missing.

Please also read HMR's and NR's post below with add to my above post.

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Excellent guideline above.
I have just recently used the above procedure. The difference was that on both to n return flights, I had to call the air line security guy myself. While my suitcase was sealed on the initial flight, it was left unsealed on the return journey. On both instances, there was no security officer at destination port, and I was on my own with the luggage.
Initial airline was Shaheen, return journey was via Air Blue.

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If you allow following may also be incorporated.

1. Luggage should be hard cased as its recommended by ASF. Its very easy to open Zipper Luggage.
2. Write down details on a separate piece of paper and hand over to ASF guy along with your Lic to save considerable time like:
Name
Address
Lic Number
Weapon Name and Caliber
No of rds carried
Destination, Flight Number and Carrier.

When the ASF guy is noting details in his register, go and get your boarding card as ASF guy needs to note down your seat number too.

You can just collect your luggage and leave at destination. ASF guy may or not accompany you till the exit.


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Shariq wrote:

When the ASF guy is noting details in his register, go and get your boarding card as ASF guy needs to note down your seat number too.



Okay, I think I'll beg to differ here, as I had a different experience.

I got the boarding pass before and when everything was noted the Security guy accompanied me to the counter. There the pretty PIA lady (thats amazing nowadays) told that the flight has been closed and she cannot take out any more baggage tags for that bag.

But since I had an ASF Liaison guy with me (thanks to THI) things were sorted out quickly! (others may not be so lucky!)

So, word of advice, reach the airport a bit before than your usual time (around 30 mins). Then you can get the things in order, in time, whether you get your boarding pass beforehand or not.

THI will be the best man to guide us on the subject matter!

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Ok, I guess informing the lady about your yet to be checked in luggage may solve the issue.


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thank you so much sir for the guideline.
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I had the opportunity to bring back my pistol from Isl. The process explained by SA remains exactly the same when i handed over the weapon.

The only difference was that my case was handed over to me after all the luggage on the plane had been put on the ramp. My case was held back (by a PIA staff) till the PIA security officer came and handed it to me after checking my tag. He did not accompany me out of the airport building and wandered off immediately.

I was extremely hesitant as it was done for the first time and i would like to thank SA for guiding me before i went in to declare it, however having been threw it once seems like i would do it again (if need be).

The ASF staff at the Isl airport were extremely cordial and helpful and did not take more than 8-10 minutes for the entire process.


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As per the rules, at the airport entry, weapon has to be declared to the ASF guy.
One guy will be designated to accompany you to the terminal building.


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I have a different experience.
From lahore to karachi the security guy told me to dismantle the gun.
I said y? Answer for security reasons.

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@Canik, that is an interesting experience, i do not think dismantling is as per rules. Having said that i guess it depends on the "mood" of the ASF staff one is dealing with.


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MI wrote:
@Canik, that is an interesting experience, i do not think dismantling is as per rules. Having said that i guess it depends on the "mood" of the ASF staff one is dealing with.



Yes correct, it all depends on the mood.
While travelling from karachi to lahore no hassles

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I've traveled to Lahore and back four times now and no one ever asked me to dismantle it at Lahore Airport. Interesting.

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There procedure doesn't say anything about dismantling the gun.I have never been asked to do so.


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In my experience, they just ask you to keep the weapon unloaded, and ammo out of the mag!

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@ SA
also interesting for me.

@ GE
yeah you are right, but faced myself

@ MR
i knew brother, but he said dismantling the whole gun as the gun and mag also out of ammo that time.

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Salams all, does anyone has an idea, if a person brings 2 riflescopes from canada in his luggage will he have to pay any customs or excise duty or are there any restrictions that may apply for doing so? Any insight would be helpful Thanks.

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As per Canadian and US laws, such accessories can not be brought to Pakistan without export lic. As per the Customs officials at JIAP, no gun or related accessories are allowed in baggage or parcel without import lic. Unofficially anything is possible. As per law guy cannot charge any duty as such items can't clear customs.


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A quick question.

Is this possible if a person bring gun accesories Himself in flight like holsters, magazine, snake bore, etc from any Europe country
Any experienced members who carried himself in a flight from Europe ?
Few months back member team sig or awara insaan brings some item from europe... I THINK ??

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As per rules, an import licence is required for any gun related item. If we don't have it then even gun related screws or springs are not permitted.
Most of the times baggage is not checked. In that case anything can be imported :-)


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HMR wrote:
As per rules, an import licence is required for any gun related item. If we don't have it then even gun related screws or springs are not permitted.
Most of the times baggage is not checked. In that case anything can be imported :-)


thanks for the reply
i think above highlited is good for BUSINESS CLASS. :think: ;) :)

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I have almost always (except for once) traveled in economy class, and so far, not once was my baggage checked (AHL). Depends on your luck, then.

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Saif wrote:
I have almost always (except for once) traveled in economy class, and so far, not once was my baggage checked (AHL). Depends on your luck, then.


if u feel comfortable, can u please share locations of departure ? andaza lagane k liye...

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Madrid, Paris, Barcelona, Zurich, Milan, Shanghai, kolding (Denmark), sometimes more than one of these..almost always via Dubai or Doha.

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Saif wrote:
Madrid, Paris, Barcelona, Zurich, Milan, Shanghai, kolding (Denmark), sometimes more than one of these..almost always via Dubai or Doha.


Yup.
Thanks. And i think kaam hoo jaega. :)

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