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What I meant to say, is use eds red in the barrel (only!) i dont want the barrel to break! Use molybednum grease on hinge pins, gun slides and wherever metal meets metal
(Not a mixture of oil and grease in the barrel) !!! it will clog fast with residue.
This is fine for storage however.

For protecting blued metaluse ATF II or III and diesel fuel in a 1:1 ATF mix or a little less diesel say 2:1 ATF

Grease will outlast oil in a stressed, hot environment with lots of friction. Oil is good for a short time in a stressed, moderately hot environment.
Moly grease leaves behind a tough film to prevent friction.
Oil reduces friction and dissapates heat.

My advise is use both oil and grease in a gun but sparingly. Due to sand and dirt accumulation.


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Rotorcrafts wrote:
Well, topics like these never come to a conclusion. But according to my research if you have the following three items you can make the best lubrication for your gun.

Break free CLP (Dunno if it is available here)
Pure Molybdenum disulfide powder (Maybe available with a bit of research)
Molybdenum disulfide grease (Most probably available)

Break free for general purpose cleaning as it leaves a layer of PTFE which covers the microscopic blemishes created due to the tooling of the firearm.

Pure Molybdenum disulfide powder is known to work wonders in the trigger group area.

Molybdenum disulfide grease in the slide to frame contact area.

All these things basicly start filling the microscopic gaps within surface to surface contact. with eventual use friction will decrease and make your firearm more smooth.

Just my own personal conclusion, maybe more senior members have better options available.

Very informative. I got a few gallons of Break free from Sitara Market, Karkhano peshawer, It is indeed the best cleaner, lubricant and protective oil.


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Very informative inputs. For gun cleaning i have been using Beretta/Browning/Brunox bore cleaners. Always used Beretta lube for the lubrication, sparingly, never felt inadequate. As after every shooting session i clean my guns(sessions have never been longer than 200 rounds) and gun cleaners wash away the lubrication along. So, can't judge the long-lasting effect of any product, had i been using grease that wouldn't have made a difference(cleaning after every session).
Although, it is logical that grease will last longer if it is not cleaned by the user.


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Gunsmiths here in Colorado, USA recommend: if it rotates grease it, and if it slides, oil it. Hoppe's #9 and Brownell's grease (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1147 ... _PLUS_reg_)


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Hi all,

I had an old AMT 1911 Government in stainless that was prone to galling. Something to do with the frame and slide not being of different enough metals and as a result were welding and breaking.

Recommendations to address that particular issue were to use white grease on the slide rails.

On all my firearms I use Hoppes solvent for a full disassembly and clean after firing (even just after 1 shot fired), and then use a varying collection of CLP break free, MPro7, Corrosion X and other lubricants/protectants, what ever I've accumulated over the years and feel like using at cleaning time.

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dsspicer1 and markypoos Brothers
A very warm welcome and thanks for the input.


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Molybdenum disulfide grease
Where it may be available and what is its common name ?


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@Shariq bro,
the axle joint grease, CV grease, is based on molybdenum disulphide. It is too thick for pistols, and will need to be 'toned down' somehow.
There are some other greases, such as lithium grease, with or without moly content.

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I still prefer oil. I use Hoppes No. 9 oil for slide lubrication and Hoppes No. 9 All Weather Guard for barell protection.

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Where we can find Lithium grease ?
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I am a convert to grease now after racking the slide of Saif's TS. It is much more smoother than my TS despite the fact that my TS has shot more.


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Where we can find Lithium grease ?
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I am a convert to grease now after racking the slide of Saif's TS. It is much more smoother than my TS despite the fact that my TS has shot more.


Which grease are you using ?

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Lithium grease, with moly additive.

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Lithium grease, with moly additive.


Any specific brand name ? Price ? Shop from where we can get the grease from ?

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Got it from a friend, as a gift. no name on tube, but most probably a LiquiMoly product.

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I use WD40 for cleaning & Mobil-1 as a lubricant.

Am i doing right ?

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Well, yes to some extent and could do better.
Mobil-1 does not have anti-oxidative properties. Better mix it equal ratio with fully synthetic automatic transmission oil. WD40 is ok and does the job, Brunox is much better, as wd40 leaves a gummy residue after some time.

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AK47 wrote:
Shariq wrote:

2) As soon as I am done with one gun and knowing that I won't fire anymore with it, instantly spray the barrel with the Brunox, and leave it there.


@ AK47, Sir please advice do you diss-assemble the weapon and use Brunox spray or simply spray inside the barrel without diss-assembling. I think its an easier way to clean without diss-assembling, by spray.

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Mian Jee wrote:
I use WD40 for cleaning & Mobil-1 as a lubricant.

Am i doing right ?


Are you using WD 40 to clean the barell internals as well ?

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Following thread is more appropriate for this discussion.
viewtopic.php?p=33674#p33674


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Furrukh wrote:
Mian Jee wrote:
I use WD40 for cleaning & Mobil-1 as a lubricant.

Am i doing right ?


Are you using WD 40 to clean the barell internals as well ?


Yes, I strip the gun completely, then spray all the parts including the barrel,
& then i apply a thin coat of Mobil 1 after drying all the parts with soft cotton cloth.

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@ Mian Jee
Just spraying the parts wont get it Clean.
You still have to get the carbon and powder off and out of your gun.
You still have to Scrub out you barrel and all the corners where dirt collects.

Also, WD-40 is a solvent, and is a VERY POOR Lubricant for long term protection.
You should use a Machine or sewing machine oil rather than a Automotive oil EXCEPT for LONG TERM Storage.

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What do you prefer for your pistols, grease or oil ?

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LAGS wrote:
You should use a Machine or sewing machine oil rather than a Automotive oil EXCEPT for LONG TERM Storage.


@LAGS
for lubrication (cycling/usage, and NOT storage) of a semi auto, what is your opinion? Which oil? And what about oil vs grease?

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