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Usama wrote:
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IMHO mobil1 easily available on Auto oil stores is the best solution for lubrication of all kinds of gun,i never used grease or any kind of oil except mobil 1,if that is not available {Singer machine oil} is the 2nd option that is not the bad option for time being


Singer machine oil , is lowest grade of oil available for lubrication and which is recycled so not a good thing to apply it will hardly last few days maybe less ..


I simply use a thin paint brush to apply lithium grease on my hand gun and have it found it better then oiling it , graphite grease pictured above was around Rs.600 to Rs.800 last time i saw

Usama bhi pls ,i requested in case no other efficient lubricant is available than singer oil is the last option,better than normally available local oils


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One question to all you lubricating expert.

If a high quality multi purpose Lithium NLGI grade 2 or 3 automotive grease is diluted with a good quality synthetic automotive/engine oil in such a way that the texture of the grease becomes just like a mayonnaise & this diluted grease is packed in syringes or tubes, is it possible to use it on the rails and other places where grease is applicable ??
The grease on the sliding parts and oil on the moving parts.


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Mayonnaise is a bit thick in my view, but if it is sufficiently diluted, yes, it can be used. I add MoS2 in that mix you mentioned, which gives a grey black tone, and better lubrication properties.

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I am using, Lubriplate FMO 350AW and 200AW oil and Lubriplate SFL#0 NLGI and #000 NLGI (the products recommended by Grant Cunningham) for almost a year now.

I am quite satisfied with the lubrication and grease resistance to washing. Grease coating on slides look intact after 100 rounds and would probably last much longer.

For me, one important bonus is that these grease and oil are non toxic (food grade) and do not stain.
I hate manupulating small parts with gloves.
I worked in mechanical industries and most lubricants are toxic, to various degree, for the skin, and their potential harm increase with frequent use. Also individuals skin susceptibility vary greatly from persons to persons.

If you can get food grade approved lubricants, it is in my view, the best solution.


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Saif wrote:
Mayonnaise is a bit thick in my view, but if it is sufficiently diluted, yes, it can be used. I add MoS2 in that mix you mentioned, which gives a grey black tone, and better lubrication properties.

Thanx Saif bro for your early reply...... :)


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I used to lubricate my guns with oil. I have tried everything from Ed's Red to Automatic transmission oil to Rust-o-Nil. They worked good, but they were not long lasting. After every hunting trip, I would oil the auto-loader just to find it dry before going on next hunting tour. Switched to grease on sliding parts and found the peace of mind.

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Yes.
Any oil is fluid and will eventually Dry Out.
Grease will not.
Grease up your guns at the end of hunting season, and cleane and OIL them before you start to use them for the next hunting season.
But grease all Year Round is OK also if you prefer.

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I now mix one part each ATF III, Mobil I (both fully synthetic), and 10% MoS2 mix (3% MoS2 suspension in mineral oil, by Liquimoly). Either the mixture itself as a lubricant oil, or mostly, nowadays, the above added to white lithium grease. Sometimes, just grease and MoS2, and sometimes, just grease as well. They all work. Grease based stay the longest. Grease and oil mixture give me greatest peace of mind...Very slick, never a failure, but I have not shot over 200 rounds through the weapon with single lubrication. However, the grease was there like new, slick, unmoved, only a little contaminated with carbon! I think it would last quite a few hundred rounds.

Aquarius bro, you are welcome.

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@ Saif
White Lithium , Graphite based grease or any good Moly lube will last thru 500 rounds easily.
But like you said, Same as the oil in your car, the lubricant doesnt Wear Out, it just traps the dirt and stuff so it needs replacing periodicly.

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And when you place your gun vertically, oil drains towards bottom. Grease defies gravity.

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I use simple auto grease on the slide/frame. On moving parts I use gun oil. So far has been working fine. Is it really necessary to use white lithium and moly etc and Mobil mix?

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The answer is NO
Any form of oil or grease is sufficient, as long as it protects the metal from the air and moisture, and helps the parts move easier than bare metal against metal.
That is the exact thing that automotive grease and oils were designed for.
But all these Special greases and Oils were designed to hit some optimum performance standard and last a little longer than the other products.
But unless you are doing really High performance shooting , and in All Kinds of weather and enviromental conditions, I dont see anything special about them.

Oil it, Grease It, shoot it, and then CLEAN IT, and then repeat the process again.

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Larry, that's exactly what I do after each range session. And those sessions aren't very exhaustive.

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I have never see a gun Wear Out from the Wrong Grease or oil being Used.
They Wear out from NO grease or oil or lack of proper cleaning.

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I wanted to open such a thread seeing its usefullness. A really informative thread

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I have experienced that neither oil nor grease alone is sufficient for extensive shooting.
Grease deposits in the corners where the slide doesnt experience friction.
And oil simple dries out.
Ideally a gun should be lubricated bfr every session.

I tried the oil and grease mix and seems good


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If the grease is piling up in the areas where ther is no friction, then there is no leed for lubrication.
The grease will Leach out little by little as the moving parts pass by.
And the grease will have some effect.
But the best remedy would to use a more fluid type of grease, or like you said, use a Blend of oil and grease.

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It only requires a very thin layer if grease or oil. Try to observe that after a long shooting session by observing light reflection on the slide rails. Wipe clean half and let the other half be. Then observe. In the tightest of guns, proper grease is good for a few hundred rounds.

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But I like the way grease makes the racking feel
Very smooth.

I gave up on oil bcz i wear white shorts all the time and the oil stains appear after a shooting session.
It doesnt go away ....


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If properly oiled or greased, your pistol should not Spit out the Lubricant.
You only need a Very thin layer of either to protect the metal.

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An effective an practical way to apply grease is to use small artist paint brushes. You apply the grease like paint, and you can easily apply the right amount of grease exactly where you want.
No more splashes.


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I use a tooth pick. Works just fine for me.

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Targetfan2 wrote:
An effective an practical way to apply grease is to use small artist paint brushes. You apply the grease like paint, and you can easily apply the right amount of grease exactly where you want.
No more splashes.


that's new me. Will try. Paint brush leaves a thin layer of grease on metal. I use match stick, good but you can't reach hard to reach areas.

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I found that I have a better control with paint brushes with short an stiffer bristles. I use cheap artist brush assortments purchased in one dollar stores.


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