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My learning is somewhat same as Optimus. Have learn't to shoot better than before on guidance of SA and hope it will improve with time.

In addition to the points mentioned in previous post, I was lacking patience and it was a must to shoot the target once gun was pointed to target resulting a zig zag pattern then forming a group. I have also learn't to "Only shoot once you are sure."

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I have also learn't to "Only shoot once you are sure."
That's correct. However, one has to do this within a short time, preferably not more than seven second from the time the shooter raises his hands to shoot. After roughly seven seconds (for most humans), the oxygen level in the blood will start dropping, causing a tremble / shake in the arms / hands and the eyes will also get tired, resulting in a loss of foucs. This means physically, the shooter will not be in best of physical conditions to shoot and from there onwards, his performance will start deteriorating. It is therefore very important to release the trigger within seven seconds. :)

Although the shooter has the option to put down his hand after 7-8 seconds if he is not satisfied with his aim and then reaim, after taking some rest, it would be much more practical to learn to do everything correctly within 7 seconds. In the beginning, one may relax on this but one must keep this is one of the objectives, to be achieved during forthcoming training sessions. With more practice, one will develop rapid shooting which only differs from deliberate shooting in terms of time. ie, every thing done is same but the time taken is 1-2 seconds instead of 7 seconds.

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SA lovely pics....

Today is my first time at range & i have learn a lot of basics about shooting...
Thanks to all my seniors for supporting me
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Dry shooting is the key to master 85% of the basics...!!!

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My feeling is somewhat same as NG. Dry shooting practice is main key.

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libral wrote:
SA lovely pics....

Today is my first time at range & i have learn a lot of basics about shooting...
Thanks to all my seniors for supporting me
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Your results were well above average for first time range shooter. Well done.


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Dry shooting is the key to master 85% of the basics...!!!


I guess in your case its almost 100% after seeing your shooting results :clap:

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HMR Bro... Thank you very much for your support and guidance at the range. :handgestures-salute:

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Bros, dry shooting is good but please be very careful when doing it. Always double check your weapon on range or at home while doing this, pointing it in a safe direction. A lot of accidents have happened just because of the dry firing thing. Thanks.
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+1 SS...

I normally do it with a full magazine, but the chamber is empty. This is purely my way and I do not recommend anyone else to do this. The reason why I do my dry shooting with full mag is because I need to have the consistent weight in my hands and on my shoulders. Less weight is better during live ammo, but more weight helps strain the muscles better hence the memory gets engraved well...

My habit while dry shooting at home, is every time that I pick up the weapon, I check the camber and continue my shooting. If I don't put the weapon down on the table, I need not check the chamber, but even if its 2 seconds that I had let go of the gun, and the next time when I pick it back up, I always check the chamber (knowing that its empty, but just to make it a routine).

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I will never forget the moment when I had almost shot my own brother with a Taurus 609. Had cleaned it up completely and did not check the chamber, assembled it up and did a dry fire, unfortunately my brother was too close to me looking at the entire assembling routine. The dry fire I had done was pointed to the ground but was very close to his groin section, the shot came out between his legs, bounced and hit the ceiling, then to the energy saver, and landed on the bed next to my thigh...The tile on the ground had a huge crack and a hole at the impact area and the energy saver was shattered immediately, along with my brother's trust as he broke into tears...I could not stop shivering and laughing at the same time to overcome the trauma and to sooth him a bit. That day, and today, I have made my own rules that are bulletproof, and I practice them religiously!

Sorry once again AGK...My hands up - My bad ...

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As I am new to this sport, last Sunday was my first day at a shooting range, I learned the basic safety rules of the range and safety measures for ammunition. How to one’s stance/posture should be, and how to aim without getting your vision blurred.


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I will never forget the moment when I had almost shot my own brother with a Taurus 609. Had cleaned it up completely and did not check the chamber, assembled it up and did a dry fire, unfortunately my brother was too close to me looking at the entire assembling routine. The dry fire I had done was pointed to the ground but was very close to his groin section, the shot came out between his legs, bounced and hit the ceiling, then to the energy saver, and landed on the bed next to my thigh...The tile on the ground had a huge crack and a hole at the impact area and the energy saver was shattered immediately, along with my brother's trust as he broke into tears...I could not stop shivering and laughing at the same time to overcome the trauma and to sooth him a bit. That day, and today, I have made my own rules that are bulletproof, and I practice them religiously!

Sorry once again AGK...My hands up - My bad ...


NG don't forget that it was not just a normal 9mm bullet it was a HOLLOW POINT. that was one reason why i had tears in my eyes. :cry:


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Glad to see your participation - get in it brother :P

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I learn't to advise our range visiting members to stick to one mentor or coach for advice. Getting advice from too many people will confuse them and result in their progress/performance nose-diving. Even on the forum, choose one senior member as your mentor and keep consulting him for advice. Difference shooters, irrespective of how good they are, might have slightly different views about different fundamentals, example what is the right grip. If you've chosen a mentor for guidance who is evidently a very good shooter, then follow him. Once you've reached a stage where you're scoring 160s and beyond from 25 meters, AND you see that your performance has reached a stand still, is the time to revisit and question the manner in which your are following each of the basic shooting technique, i.e., trigger pull, breathing, front-sight focus, grip, sight picture, etc.

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No matter how many shooters (from top ranked or otherwise) are around you, only listen to one, and follow him from start till the end. One can graduate from one level of shooting to another, but can never graduate from under one teacher...

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and to be a master follow the master. Choose the one to be your master to make you master..
and they said, To break the rules first must learn the rules.

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There was quiet a few things learnt in today's session ... http://thegunforum.net/viewtopic.php?p=77496#p77496

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And may I also suggest using snap caps for practice? If you want a full mag. But I think snap caps aren't as heavy as original rounds.

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Thank you SS - yes I am looking to get snap caps soon for dry practice.

Please review today's results at ASCCL...http://thegunforum.net/viewtopic.php?p=77496#p77496

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I normally do it with a full magazine, but the chamber is empty. This is purely my way and I do not recommend anyone else to do this..........
This skipped my eyes somehow and looks it skipped the eyes of senior shooters too.

Naveed sahib, in very simple words, THIS IS NOT TO BE DONE. No matter what the reason, THIS IS NOT TO BE DONE. I have seen few people dying on the range / at home. They were all experts and thought that they knew their weapons too well, SOPs are for the beginners and it was not important for them to follow the SOPs as they were experts. They erred only once in their life time and lost their lives / took someone else's life. May God rest their souls in peace.

I would strongly request you to ensure THAT THE MAG IS EMPTY WHEN YOU ARE DRY FIRING. The filled mags should even not be in close vicinity where you are dry firing. We want to see you and others around you alive. You may be very very vigilant / mindful of what you are doing but at the end, you are a human and humans do err.

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KBW Sb he was requested in another thread to avoid this practise. I hope he is not doing it anymore.


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@KBW and HMR

No, I have stopped practicing with a loaded mag, in fact I have kept one mag empty for dry practice at home, and my loaded mag is always in the CC pouch.

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That's great brother. We want to see you safe :text-bravo:

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Cheers KBW :)

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